Subject: Info-Mac Digest V16 #229 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Info-Mac-Digest" --Info-Mac-Digest Info-Mac Digest Thu, 31 Dec 98 Volume 16 : Issue 229 Today's Topics: 2 questions [A]-Where is OT/PPP Contol Panel (OS 8.5.1)? [non-Answer] At Ease 2.0 and game CD's A Very Strange Thing Any LaserWriter Select 310 + Mac OS 8.5 solutions? ATTN APPLE ENGINEERS: Appletalk defaulting to printer port cd kopieren Finder Problems? info mac download Info-Mac Digest V16 #228 One scanner driver Possible Outlook Problem for Macintoshes Sluggish Netscape 4.5 and Mac OS 8.5.1 Virex The Info-Mac Network is a volunteer organization that publishes the Info-Mac Digest and operates the Info-Mac Archive, a large network of FTP sites containing gigabytes of freely distributable Macintosh software. 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I've run everything from HyperCard 2.3 up to 2.4.1 (including a long stay at 2.3.5) on a PowerBook 170 ('030, older than the 180) with no complaints. In fact, I've used it for solutions when the solution platform was network access to a Mac SE -- and access times were acceptable (barely)! You should be fine! - Joni hope at unc dot edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:42:53 -0700 From: "IQTech-P.Reilly" Subject: [A]-Where is OT/PPP Contol Panel (OS 8.5.1)? > From: shorton > Subject: [Q]-Where is OT/PPP Contol Panel (OS 8.5.1)? > > I did a clean install of MacOS 8.5 and then ran 8.5.1 updater. All is > well except that OT/PPP control panel is nowhere to be found! Apple merged ARA and PPP capabilities. The new name for the control panel is Remote Access. +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Patrick L. Reilly, Gen. Mgr. | P.O. 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I had assorted ritual voodoo spells I chanted whenever I changed CDs or users, and sometimes they even worked (AtEase seemed to have the most trouble switching between the finder users and the finder destroyers, and if I ejected all CDs and opened and closed the empty CD drive and sang an Italian aria and was nice to my wife, then it usually wouldn't crash) . I had decided, based on refusing to try any more to really fix it, that there was exentsion problem between AtEase and my CD management utils (FWB). Then I networked the boys' Performa 476 with my UMAX S900, and the old crashes stopped--but now, I cannot reboot with both AtEase Startup and networking active. No problem: I just told the 4-year-old the password to my AtEase user account, and whenver he wants to shut down he must turn off Apple Talk. Of course, now the 3 year-old wants to know the password, but he's only interested in hacking the Web kid-proofing utils. He knows that if he invokes enough restarts, Conflict Catcher will eventually kill of AtEase for him... (Applying the AtEase 2 updater did seem to help. I got it from some CD or other, so it's probably on Apple's FTP site... somewhere.) Bon chance. KJ Kevin Jones ** It was an absurd endeavor--and was crowned with kevjones@cei.net ** the success common to many absurd endeavors... Little Rock, AR ** --Fernando Arrabal ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 17:31:39 -0400 From: hope@eat.spam (Joni Hope) Subject: A Very Strange Thing Hello all, I encountered some very strange Mac behavior the day after Christmas, and I was wondering if anyone could explain what happened. Sorry for the long story. A friend came over with the family Performa 6214CD (that's a 75Mhz 603) with Apple MS15 monitor running the stock System 7.5.1 that shipped on it. His daughters told him he was a bad dad if he couldn't get the Apple Color StyleWriter 1500 printer to work with the computer, and despite some really impressive efforts, he couldn't get the printer to work. (He was very upset about being called a bad dad. Despite knowing nothing, he tried all the right things.) I tried the install disks, and it failed at the end. I read the Troubleshooting file and followed the two tips supplied: restarting with extensions off, and restarting with no fonts (in case of corrupt fonts; I just dragged the Fonts folder out). In both cases, the install failed late. In my experience, and everyone's story seems to vary, I have the best luck with System 7.5.3 of all the 7.5.x flavors. In fact, I even had a spare CD of Update 2.0 that I gave to him, after updating his system. After the update, the printer software installed much faster than the other times failed. He went home, now a good dad. That's not the strange part. Here's what I noticed that was unusual. When I started, About This Macintosh showed 16 Meg of physical RAM with the default (Memory control panel) 32 Meg virtual. The System was taking about 2.4 Meg, when I would expect any version of 7.5 with that many extensions to take about 5 Meg. Many reboots, and the same numbers each time except I ran the virtual down to 17 Meg. Here's the kicker, the strange thing: *after* I installed Update 2.0, I wanted to see About This Macintosh say "System 7.5.3 Update 2.0", which it did. It also said 8 Meg physical, 9 Meg virtual, and System taking 5 Meg. Whoa! What's going on with the factor of two, and why did it go bad so fast? Now he has HALF the RAM, with the System taking TWICE as much as before. VERY WEIRD. According to Apple Specs 8/98, this model would have shipped with 8 Meg of physical. I think I believe the numbers after and not before, but how did the numbers get off before? Is it worth installing 7.5.3 long enough to get the printer drivers for the Color Stylewriter 1500 installed, and then go back to the original 7.5.1? Performas have that nice Launcher button if you boot from that CD to "Restore System Software" to the stock config. However, since it ran so much faster after the update, I bet it was running virtual memory off the hard drive which will slow a Mac down horribly. OK, I admit, I did poke around in his System Folder, but I don't think that's it. I went through only the Extensions and Control Panels folders, and I only moved items I know are safe to move because I've done it hundreds of times fixing hundreds of Macs (I used to work at a Help Desk, and I'm still called in to troubleshoot the really sticky Mac problems on campus, so I have seen a large volume of Macs needing my help). Anything he couldn't use, like the control panels for PowerBooks only, I deleted. (He's got all his master media.) Anything he wasn't using, I moved to the "xx (Disabled)" folder, like the EtherTalk extension; this Performa may never be on an Ethernet network in its life at this rate. I didn't see a RAMDoubler, and I didn't see a RAMHalver. He hasn't installed anything on this Performa (nor have his girls). It's just got the stock config with the stock software with which it shipped. I didn't mention that the memory looked strange to me. He'd already had a rough day trying to fix the printer to work for his girls, and I wasn't going to say anything negative once he was happy again. Before I updated, I ran Disk First Aid. Since it said minor repairs were needed, I booted from the Performa CD and allowed that DFA to repair the hard drive. TechTool (1.1.7, the "light" version) gave it a clean bill of health, and I've seen it pick up a corrupted System. His birthday is May, so I think I might buy him some memory then, and install it. Does anybody know if the standard 8 Meg is soldered to the mb so the two slots are free, or if I will be pulling RAM to add larger capacity RAM? Thanks! hope at unc dot edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 17:51:53 -0500 From: Roy Pardi Subject: Any LaserWriter Select 310 + Mac OS 8.5 solutions? hello- I recently upgraded to Mac OS 8.5. All was (fairly) well until I tried to print to my LaserWriter Select 310 printer. Doesn't work. A check of Apple Tech notes cites an incompatibility of Mac OS 8.5 and the Select 310 printer driver, and states that there are no plans to upgrade the driver. Apple Tech Support was completely useless and uninformed, telling me repeatedly to check that I had the latest driver even as I pointed them to the tech note which states that this driver is incompatible. This essentially orphans this printer. Although the printer is now four years old, it is still quite serviceable and has perfomed well for my small business needs. Since I hadn't planned to buy a new printer simply to run 8.5, I contacted Apple for a refund. I have been bounced through numerous departments and have not yet received a response to my refund request. There may be a valid technical reason why this printer is no longer supported. If there is, I have not been able to find it. Certainly the age of the printer can't be a factor since 8.5 still supports the ImageWriter model, which hasn't been sold in at least as many years. It would have been nice to have a listing of incompatibilities upfront before I wasted my time installing (and now uninstalling) system software which I can not use. Can anyone think of a solution beyond reinstalling MAC OS 8.1? -Roy Pardi - rpardi@tiac.net New Bytes: Behavior Writer Xtra for Director 6 http://www.tiac.net/users/rpardi/behaviorwriter/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:37:53 -0600 From: John Burwell Subject: ATTN APPLE ENGINEERS: Appletalk defaulting to printer port Appletalk should not default to the printer port. Instead, if there is a problem with the Ethernet or ARA, Appletalk should default to "Off." Defaulting to the printer port both assumes and requires that nothing be connected to the printer port unless it is an Appletalk device. This includes Deskwriters, Stylewriters, digital cameras, and modems. These are all devices which behave quite erratically when Appletalk is turned on. As an administrator, this is the first thing I check when peripherals misbehave. Granted, once the software is set up properly, there are no further problems. But this is a hassle for users who for whatever reason find themselves only intermittently connected to an ethernet network. As a college student, I drag my system to and from campus each semester and at major holidays, and when I'm home, it never fails that my Deskwriter spits out gibberish while my computer is unresponsive as it attempts to start up networking over the printer port. While I can understand that it makes Localtalk networking as easy as plugging in the computer, it makes everything else require an additional step. What needs to be done is this: In the even that the previously selected interface is unavailable, present a dialog which notifies the user of this, as usual. But ask the user: should the printer port be used instead, or should Appletalk be disabled? This solution would allow for the easy installation of Localtalk and eliminate the confusion which arises when the ethernet is not available, for whatever reason. Off-topic? Perhaps. But I don't know how else to send this kind of feedback to Apple. So if anyone knows of an e-mail address that I could send this kind of thing to, please let me know! Thanks j ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:41:12 +0100 From: Christian F Buser Subject: cd kopieren Hello J.Molegraaf. At Tue, 29 Dec 1998 13:55:34 +0100 you wrote: > Ik kopieer nogal eens cd's. > Maar nu heb ik een probleem. > De cd die ik wou kopieren, wilde hij niet kopieren, hij is misschien wel > beveiligd. > Kunnen jullie mij hierbij helpen? > M.B.V. software of iets anders, alles kan. Although I don't really understand or even speak Dutch, I think I know what your problem is. - You want to duplicate an existing CD. - You could do this before with other CD's without problems - Now you can't duplicate a specific CD. This may be that this particular CD is somehow copy protected to prevent this action. I have seen such protection schemes on Windows CDs, but it may also exist for Mac CDs. In this case, it is not possible even to copy the contents of the whole CD to a harddisk drive. Hope this info helps. Best wishes for the new year, Christian. -- Christian F. Buser - phone (+41-56) 491 0877 Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Look at "Wo Hunger herrscht, kann Friede nicht Bestand haben" - Willy Brandt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 22:37:09 +1100 From: Bill Stanford Subject: Finder Problems? In Info-Mac Digest V16 #227, Charles Edward Farrugia wrote: >Recently I've been getting the following message after doing a >number of consecutive operations (e.g. pasting textures into Texture >Installer; aligning windows; etc.). The message reads: > >"The command could not be completed, because there isn't enough memory >available. Closing windows or quitting application programs can make more >memory available" > >The problem is, there's heaps of memory (around 15Meg) so I don't know >what's happening - especially as this message has not come up before!! [snip] >I gather that the Finder thinks that it has run out of memory but how can >this be and >what is causing it? More _importantly_ how do I fix it???? Charles, a friend of mine met this recently, so I've a boiler plate on this one (sorry, it's rather long... but I hope, witty enough... :-) -- Increasing Finder Memory Once upon a time, long ago in the 1980's, in System 6.x.x the Finder had a 'Size' panel in its Get Info dialog, just like any other application. You could turn up its memory allocation, or turn it down. (Up was better!) Then - probably just before Sys 7.0.0 was due to take the street in '91 - someone at Apple finally noticed that Finder 7.0.0 had bad habits. Noticeably, if one used it to copy very large, or very many files, it would finish the copy, then shrug its shoulders and murmur "well that's it for today" - announced by a system alert. Its menus would then be inoperative or strange, and it would crash any open apps. Only rebooting with the finger would fix things... The reason was plain to the Finder team. RAM at that time cost $200/M, and the OS guys were trying to cram Sys 7 into the same system memory space as System 6's 900K. But 7 seemed to want 3M, and one desperate day the 7 supervisor told the Finder guys to turn its memory down from the 0.69M it needed, to 0.19M. Naturally now if you asked Finder to _do_ anything it would refuse, being very angry indeed! Then just before they shipped, one of the Finder guys said in horror, "What if some user uses Get Info to turn Finder memory down _more_!!" "We'll stop that" snarled the Finder Team Leader, and tearing Finder open w/o anesthetic, he ripped out the Size code from the Get Info dialog... And they never put it back. And under 7.x.x Finder would gracefully malfunction in its paltry 199,000bytes. Especially on networks, even small ones, when AppleTalk was up... -- OS 8 was released in happier days for Finder. Now they've given it 933888bytes, 0.93M odd. But as you've found, it still goes strange if you do major drag copy jobs etc.; and the reason for this is that memory is now dynamic on the Mac, as it always should have been, and they've given the Finder under OS 8 a _minimum_ memory of only 131072bytes, 0.13M. Thus when the Finder does things like calling the part of the OS known as the Disk Manager for the routine to copy files with, it drops its own memory allocation to fit the new code into the same system space - at least, I assume this is what happens, and it's an educated guess. There's plenty of Finder memory space to shrink, with that much difference in its size settings. Copy something big, like an installed application folder, and Finder drops its own memory a lot, to give the copy routine RAM space. But: Finder is not very good at reclaiming that memory it seems, and Finder 8 still shows, like the Finder of Sys 7, signs of collapse after such major jobs... The Fix: make the Finder's minimum memory the same as its normal memory, thus forcing Finder to use new system RAM for large jobs. (One takes the safeguard of not doing large copies with many applications open, to ensure there's plenty of unallocated RAM for Finder to grab...) The Method: 1) Open the System Folder, hold down the