Subject: Info-Mac Digest V16 #50 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Info-Mac-Digest" --Info-Mac-Digest Info-Mac Digest Mon, 02 Mar 98 Volume 16 : Issue 50 Today's Topics: [A] Deskjet & modem question [Q] Eudora Filter Problem - Repost AppleTalk like FTP (Q) Eudora compatible multiple user e-mailer (Q) Eudora Pro 4.0: first impressions HELP for MUSTEK Scanner!!! Macsbug Question Mpeg Player need help in shut-down or restart new mouse for an old mac PB5300 vs CSW 2200 programs crash on reconnection Screen capture just one step further SGI Kaleidoscope - where? Spam Filter for Eudora Light Spam Filter for Eudora Light System 8 in 7100/80 AV Text Encoding Converter Thanks Word Graphics Filter Can't Be Found Zip/Jaz & M/O Startup Disks The Info-Mac Network is a volunteer organization that publishes the Info-Mac Digest and operates the Info-Mac Archive, a large network of FTP sites containing gigabytes of freely distributable Macintosh software. For more information, visit the Info-Mac Web site at . Email Addresses and Instructions: * To submit articles to the digest, email . * To subscribe, send email to with subscribe in the Subject line. * To unsubscribe, send email to with unsubscribe in the Subject line. * To change your address, unsubscribe from the old address, then subscribe from the new address. If that fails, try using the list maintenance form at before contacting us. * Please send administrative queries to . * To submit files for the archive, email the binhexed file with a description to . Submissions must be made by the author or with permission of the author. It may take up to a week to process; check mirror sites for the status of new uploads. FTP and Web Addresses and Instructions: * To submit files larger than 800K, email a description to and then use an FTP client to upload the binhexed file to info-mac.org, using the userid "macgifts and the password "macgifts". Or, click . * A full list of Info-Mac mirror sites is available at the URL below: * Search the archive at . Info-Mac volunteers include Gordon Watts, Adam C. Engst, Demitri Muna, Mike O'Bryan, Michael Bean, and Liam Breck. The Info-Mac Digest is sponsored in part by StarNine Technologies, developers of Internet server software for the Macintosh, including Web and email publishing systems. We'd also like to thank AOL for the main Info-Mac machine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Info-Mac Digest V16 #50" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 01:24:27 -0600 From: "Dennis L. Davis" Subject: [A] Deskjet & modem question At 5:32 PM -0700 2/25/98, Julius Friede wittily wrote: > I have a powerbook that naturally has a printer/modem port, as well as an > internal modem. To print to my DeskJet 870, AppleTalk needs to be off. To > connect to my ISP, AppleTalk needs to be on. Is there a utility available > that will allow me to do both tasks without having to constantly do the > On/Off tango? > > TIA, > Julius I would check out the Control Modules: AppleTalk Switch or maybe one of the others. Curiosity killed the cat, but satisfaction brought it back. ICQ#5066430 Blessings, Denny ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 13:03:07 +0000 From: Mephistophilis Subject: [Q] Eudora Filter Problem - Repost I am a registered user of Eudora Pro 3.0 on a Power Mac 8200/120, 32Mb, S7.5.5. I find that messages from one or two sources consistently resist filtering. The approximately 65 other filters that I have set up work flawlessly. I have tried several versions of filter for the offending messages but none works. I would be most grateful for any advice. TIA - Fergus Lalor ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 23:08:18 -0500 From: abrody@smart.net Subject: AppleTalk like FTP (Q) Dear Digest readers, I have tried NetFinder, Cyberdog, NetPrezence, Fetch, BBEdit commerical version 4.0, and Anarchie. None of these really fit the bill, although all come close. If somebody knows of an ftp utility that supports password ftp, gives you a Finder interface (that means dates and file sizes, and other Finder View options in a list view, as well as an icon view), when viewing remote files, and drag and drop capability into those remote folder windows with a seamless integration into the Finder, please let me know. It should work with a standard PPP connection using OpenTransport on a PowerMac 7200/75. It should also not require Internet Config. I'll use FinderPop to choose which applications I want to load thanks, and don't want another utility to choose it for me. If it had seamless integration with the open/save dialog boxes that would be great too. Connecting to different internet servers should the same as double-clicking a folder in the Finder, once the "folder" has been setup with the proper ftp address. The closest I have come to this (don't flame me!) is Windows NT 4.0 Windows Explorer and its Network Neighborhood. But the setup for remote servers is nowhere near as simple as on a Mac, yet once it is set up, that would be the way I'd like to view and work with files. Anything for the Mac that does that? Or is there a way to setup connecting a PPP connection using AppleTalk to an internet provider that would essentially do the same thing? Thank you. Sincerely, abrody@smart.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 22:01:23 -0500 From: abrody@smart.net Subject: Eudora compatible multiple user e-mailer (Q) Dear Digest readers, I am looking for a Eudora compatible POP3/SMTP e-mailer that supports multiple e-mail usernames and passwords without having to go into the settings dialog box everytime I want to switch users. It should be able to read Eudora folders and files, as well as create ones that Eudora is capable of reading. I am using Eudora Pro 2.1.3 and can't upgrade. I would prefer it, if it had frames where I could simply switch between folders and user inboxes. Cyberdog did it, but then again it doesn't create Eudora compatible mailboxes, it only can read them. If at all possible, it should be freeware, and PowerMac native. Thank you. Sincerely, abrody@smart.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 16:41:48 -0500 From: Pieter Stouten Subject: Eudora Pro 4.0: first impressions First impressions often lie. Not this time, I fear. I have used Eudora Pro 4.0 for five days now and it does not at all compare favourably with version 3.1.3. Version 4.0 adds directory services, auto configuration from a server, PureVoice voicemail handling, background send/receive, automatic completion of nicknames while one is typing. The first three features are of no use to me, but your mileage may vary. I find the latter two features potentially useful (although the nickname completion feature is somewhat disconcerting; maybe I just have to get used to it, though). PGP 5.5 comes with Eudora Pro 4.0, but PGP 5.0 worked already with Eudora Pro 3.1.3, so that does not qualify as a new feature. So what *DON'T* I like about Eudora Pro 4.0? * It only functions with the Appearance Extension/Application combo. This is an integral part of OS 8, but can also be used with OS 7. In my case, there was a very nasty three-way conflict between Appearance SDK 1.0.2, Adobe Type Reunion 1.2 and Word 6.0.1. Word reproducibly hung when both extensions loaded. I expect that many OS 7 users have not upgraded to OS 8 for compatibility reasons. It is unpleasant that Eudora 4 insists on using code developed for OS 8 that can bring about the very problems OS 7 users try to avoid. * Related to the preceding, my Now Menus keyboard equivalents do not work with Eudora 4. I suspect that this is because Eudora relies on Appearance, which in turn may not work with Now Menus. One may argue that Now Menus is evil, but especially in Eudora I relied heavily on its keyboard equivalents. I have now used ResEdit to add some of them, but have no idea how to add keyboard equivalents to Message Plug-ins such as Lower Case and Upper Case, and to the Queue/Send button on the message window. Any hints as to how to add keyboard equivalents to those menu items are much appreciated (I'll probably try using QuicKeys if not other solution presents itself). * The interpretation of HTML is abysmally slow, seemingly much slower than in 3.1.3 (although I never timed it with that version). NetBITS issue #17 (a 66 kB document) takes 4 (four!) minutes to display on a, admittedly probably overloaded, 7100/66. Communicator 4.04 uses 20 seconds to display the same document on the same machine. Eudora is 12 times slower! Who is going to wait 4 minutes for a normally sized HTML document to display? Also, links within a document (i.e. pointing to sections within the document one is reading) do not work. * Every major Eudora release seems to make unnecessary, superficial changes to the GUI. This time, icons rather than letters are used to indicate the status of messages (read, sent, forwarded, etc.). Normally, icons are preferred to text, but NOT when 1-letter acronyms indicate perfectly what the status of mails is; much better than greyish arrows that point every which way. An arrow pointing left means a message was replied to!? Mails that are not yet read or sent have a relatively obtrusive bluish dot indicating their status. For queued messages the "Q" is retained, but it has been turned into a fuzzy anti-aliased image rather than a crisp and clear letter. The distinction between the standard signature and no signature is also very unclear (just lighter shades of purple). Why not use e.g. a red capital N for "no signature" or a purple John Hancock with a red cross or bar over it? The icon representing priority is also very unclear. In summary, the GUI has become more cluttered and much less clear than in version 3.1.3. A monkey with half a brain would probably have designed a better interface. * One of my big gripes is that the indication of how much empty space mailboxes contain is not updated immediately when messages get deleted. Neither is the status of mailboxes with unread messages (indicated by underlining of the mailbox name) updated when all messages have been read. This worked fine in version 3.1.3 and takes hardly any CPU time (considering that some bookkeeping operations are necessary anyway). As to relevant new features, there are none. Personally, I think that especially revision of the find/search tool is long overdue: * It should search all messages/mailboxes specified and return a complete list of hits instead of returning one hit at the time. The search results could be returned the way that "Find File" in the Finder does it (e.g. in a window that is distinctly different from Eudora's mailbox windows and the information in it disappears when the next search is initiated) or in a Eudora mailbox (indistuinguishable from a regular mailbox) with pointers to the original messages. * One should not have to search either headers or bodies. Analogous to "Find File," one should be able to specify sender, recipient, range of dates, keywords in the subject, keywords in the text, or any combination thereof. I had hoped that Eudora 4 would be a major improvement over version 3.1.3, but I have lost functionality, the interface is worse, the status of mailboxes is not updated immediately anymore, and functionality that is long overdue (a useful find/search tool) is still not there. I am disappointed (will this qualify for the understatement of the year?). Pieter Stouten DuPont Merck - Computer Aided Drug Design Group Web: http://www.halcyon.com/stouten/ ------------------------------ Date: 01 Mar 98 13:52:54 +0100 From: "Mirko Lalli" Subject: HELP for MUSTEK Scanner!!! One of my friends has give to me a old MUSTEK PARAGON 1200CX scanner (three pass, SCSI). But WHITOUT any software or drivers... So, can anyone help me to connect to my Mac68K and make working this scanner? (i.e. by sending information where and what software I must catch or - better! - by sending me the necessary at my e-mail address...) Any help will be VERY appreciated!!! Please replay by e-mail. Thanks. mkl@ats.it P.S. I know that my english in very (VERY) bad... sorry... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 17:07:00 -0700 From: mattjs Subject: Macsbug Question Hi all, Question, which version of Macsbug are you all using on MacOS 8.1? I've been using Norton CrashMaker and finally gave up on it. The current version on the Apple site is 6.5.3 which is noted as working on 7.6.1. Does it work on 8 and later or is there another version I should be looking for? Thanks all, Matt Matt Smith Valley High School Albuquerque, New Mexico ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 11:28:19 -0800 From: Dave Rudance Subject: Mpeg Player Is there any application that will play Mpeg movies with sound. The lastest version of Sparkle 245 does not support video and audio. I have , along with Sparkle, Maczilla Player, and Movie Player butcannot get either to play an Mpeg video with sound. Any help or sugfestion here would be appreciated. Please EM me at rudance@sfu.ca ------------------------------ Date: 28 Feb 98 10:55:54 -0600 From: "bolinger" Subject: need help in shut-down or restart Hello, I hope there is some suggestion for a cure to this bothersome problem. Ever since I upgraded to OS 8.1 I have had the following annoying problem: After using a number of programs and having my Mac on for an hour or more, when I go to restart or shut down it often happens that the desktop icons will disappear only to reappear without the system actually quitting. Several items may then appear in the trash (identity unknown, usually 3 items amounting to 33K). Going to the Special Menu again to shut down or restart will then cause an actual shut down or restart. I'm wondering what's going on. Configuration: PowerCenter 150, 604 processor, 32 Meg Ram, OS 8.1, Ram Doubler. Thanks, Ron Bolinger ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 18:06:07 -0600 From: DrDebug@accessAtlanta.com (Stan Thiemann) Subject: new mouse for an old mac I have an old Mac Plus with a dead mouse (DB9 plug). I also have an unused ADB mouse from a new mac. Is there a way to adapt the new mouse to the old mac? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 21:18:58 -0700 From: Bruce Carter Subject: PB5300 vs CSW 2200 For some reason, we cannot get a Color StyleWriter 2200 to work with a PowerBook 5300cs. The printer prints the test page fine. The printer works fine when hooked up to a PowerBook 160. The 5300 works fine with an old original StyleWriter hooked to it. It does not work, however, with a Color StyleWriter 2500, which seems to be common ground of some sort. The 5300 is running MacOS 8.1. I have already tried the memory increase tip given in the TIL. Any ideas? -- Bruce Carter, Boise State Univ., Boise, ID 83725 bcarter@mentor.idbsu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 22:30:57 -0500 From: Phil McIntosh Subject: programs crash on reconnection Lately I have been having a strange problem with both Eudora Light 3.1.1 and Fetch 3.0.3. They work fine the first time I connect ot the Internet. However, if I disconnect and then try to reconnect, both programs quit with a type 3 error as soon as they try to connect. I have a Starmax 3000 running 7.6.1 with FreePPP 2.5.6 and OT 1.1.2. If I reboot, then everything works fine again. Any ideas as to the cause/solution to this nuisance? Thanks, Phil McIntosh ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 98 23:06:22 +0100 From: Susan & Janwillem Subject: Screen capture just one step further Does anyone know of any programme or utility (shareware or otherwise) that will enable me to record my actions on screen. The same way that command-shift-3 takes a snapshot of your desktop, I nedd the same thing but then in a QuickTime or some other format. I'm assisting a choreographer plan formations and travelling paths for the dancers first on the Mac before we get into the studio. Believe it or not, we're going to throw some balls around in Thinkin' Things and when we find a formation that works I want to be able to record it. Does anyone have any ideas? I'd be grateful for any suggestions Susan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 22:29:08 -0500 From: abrody@smart.net Subject: SGI Kaleidoscope - where? Dear Digest readers, Where might I find an Silicon Graphics (SGI) X-Windows style for Kaleidoscope? I know Church Windows has this style built in, but I haven't seen anything in info-mac. Also has anyone figured out how to make open folders look like open folders, and not the black mask that normally appears with large icons? I know from working with a SGI machine that the folder icons actually open and close as if they were real folders. Sincerely, abrody@smart.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 18:26:34 -0500 From: "Peter J. Paul" Subject: Spam Filter for Eudora Light > I'm trying to make a filter in Eudora Light 3.1 that puts messages > addressed directly to me or to the mailing lists I'm subscribed to in the > Inbox, and everything else goes straight to the trash. In other words, most > spam messages would be transferred directly to the Trash mailbox. > > The problem is, all filters I've set up so far either transfer all messages > to the trash, or none of them. I've RTFM, and it wasn't helpful. I need > step-by-step directions, please help!! You'll find the orders of the filters to be the key. It sounds the filter that is set to send things to the trash is above the other. Just drag it down. Peter J. Paul pjp@cheerful.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 19:48:44 -0500 From: "Victor Daniel a.k.a the MacNut" Subject: Spam Filter for Eudora Light My thanks to everyone who responded to my frantic questions about spam filters. It looks like many of my problems started because I tried to use multiple addresses in one filter. Unfortunately, that didn't work, hence my frantic email to the list. With the gracious help of Geoffrey Gautcher, Charles Dyer, and others, I was able to figure out how to set up some working filters. My thanks again to all who responded for taking time out to help me. The MacNut | Victor Daniel a.k.a The MacNut Home page in progress at: | | macnut@netaxs.com http://www.netaxs.com/~macnut | | vdaniel@earth.eng.temple.edu vdaniel@thunder.ocis.temple.edu | ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 23:27:58 -0200 From: Alan Richard / Monika Subject: System 8 in 7100/80 AV Hi info-macer's, I would like to thanks to the guys answered my question (Ron Colvin, Myron Caspar, Neil Fiertel and David Yon). Your sugestion worked (in part). I had success in install the system from the independent installer on the CD, everything was ok! But now I cannot install the update to 8.1 <:-/ But don't worry guys, I will wait for Rapsody <:-) Cheers, Alan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 11:13:41 +0000 From: Maisie Oliver Subject: Text Encoding Converter I have loaded Mac OS 8.0 and followed it up with MacOS 8.1 on an 8600/300 Mac that came with 7.6.1 installed. After I restarted I got a message saying that "Text Encoding Converter" was not in my Extension Manager. It is only in the extensions folder . Is there an easy way of correcting this problem? Is this essential to the system to function correctly? Your help would be appreciated Maisie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 98 15:47:52 CST From: Mike Sisson Subject: Thanks I would like to belatedly thank the MANY individuals who responded to my questions concerning 56k modems/PPP, newsreading programs and MIME/UU decoders. The response was overwhelming and I appreciate it. Try to get that quantity AND quality of help for a pee cee platform! I finally got my my modem working at 28800 and below by updating the firmware off of a hidden page on the Hayes website. I am hopeful that v.90 will stabilize things and improve compatibility even more. I am happily using MT-Newswatcher. The MT makes all of the difference in the world. I tried MacSOUP and haven't given up on it yet but when I add over about 100 newsgroups to my list, it crashes with a -42 error. It did it repeatedly even after I doubled the application memory size. I looked at about 5 uudecoders. I think I like STUU the best. Seems to be the fastest. However, uuUndo will trash the .uu files automatically. That's kind of neat. YA-Base64 is happily decoding base-64 stuff for me. Again, thanks for all of the help and suggestions. Mike Sisson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 13:34:35 -0800 From: Jim Sanders Subject: Word Graphics Filter Can't Be Found Ben, I had this happen, except that it was the U.S. Dictionary that turned up missing, and we later discovered also the Powerpoint ClipArt index (not the art files themselves) had gone missing ("Application cannot complete the requested function"). This timing was was after the new converters were installed for both applications, and after OS 8.0, but before 8.1. After copying them in from working "identical application-image" backups failed, I finally completely reinstalled both applications from CD. Whatever the problem, it destroyed not only the files, but also the application's knowledge of their existence! Now running fine again (fine, that is, for a M$ application) on both 8.0 and 8.1. Cheers, --Jim-- ------------------------------+ Reply Separator +-------------------------------- >I ran into this problem, too, although it seemed to crop up after I had >loaded a word conversion filter to handle word 97 downgrades. But it was >about the time of 8.1 also, if I remember right. Reloading all the word >stuff didn't help; I finally gave up. If you find out anything, please >post. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 01:25:04 -0600 From: "Dennis L. Davis" Subject: Zip/Jaz & M/O Startup Disks At 10:45 AM -0600 2/26/98, Ted Logan wittily wrote: > How do I boot off a Zip or M/O disk, please, assuming they're systemed, of > course, and that I can't boot off my usual HD (sad face, whatever)? > > To boot off a CD, you hold down "C." To boot off a floppy, you just insert > the floppy. Do Jaz and M/O drives work like floppies? > > Thanks. > > Ted Logan > tedlogan@busprod.com If you hold down these keys Cmd-Option-Shift-Delete until the Splash Screen or StartupScreen loads this will make the Mac ignore the internal HD and look on the SCSI chain for the next disk with an OS. Works for me. :-} Curiosity killed the cat, but satisfaction brought it back. ICQ#5066430 Blessings, Denny -------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest-- End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************