Subject: Info-Mac Digest V17 #105 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Info-Mac-Digest" --Info-Mac-Digest Info-Mac Digest Wed, 28 Jun 00 Volume 17 : Issue 105 Today's Topics: [*] TidBITS#536/26-Jun-00 [A] iMac won't stay shutdown CD firmware update Info-Mac Digest V17 #104 Mac OS 7.6 screen shot Network time server The Info-Mac Network is a volunteer organization that publishes the Info-Mac Digest and operates the Info-Mac Archive, a large network of FTP sites containing gigabytes of freely distributable Macintosh software. Working with the Info-Mac Digest: * To submit articles to the digest, email . * To subscribe, send email to with the words subscribe info-mac in the message. * To unsubscribe, send email to with the words unsubscribe info-mac in the message. * To change your address, unsubscribe from the old address, then subscribe from the new address. * Please send administrative queries to . 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Topics: MailBITS/26-Jun-00 Open Source and the Macintosh Serving the Internet from a PowerBook 5300 [Archived as /info-mac/per/tb/tidbits-536.etx; 32K] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:28:46 -0800 From: "Kee Nethery, Kagi CEO" To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: [A] iMac won't stay shutdown My thanks to everyone who replied; John Hibbert, RobD, Bull Durham, Kirk McMichael, Lyle Phillips, mcardeir, Scott Beach, abrody, and Rik Steuperaert. Original Question: >We have one iMac that when you select shutdown, it restarts immediately >We have lots of iMacs that do stay shutdown, only this one seems to have >a strong enough will to live that it survives shutdown. When I set the >Energy Control Panel to shutdown after a period of inactivity, it >restarts immediately. > >It has an ADB keyboard and ADB mouse with the ABD to USB adapter. We have >a similar setup on other iMacs and they do shutdown and stay shutdown. Solution: The ABD to USB Adapter with ADB keyboard attached causes the iMac to detect a power-on signal and restart whenever it is shutdown. Replacing the keyboard and/or adapter will solve the problem. Unplugging that assembly allowed it to stay shutdown. I liked John's suggestion the best. When it happened to him he decided it's not a bug, it's a feature, and he turned that iMac into a server that should never be shutdown. :-) An alternative (didn't apply to us) is that a connector cable inside the iMac could have been damaged during a RAM install causing a short which would always restart the mac. Another alternative (again not our situation) was a USB Zip Drive that was causing the restart. Thanks to everyone, Kee Nethery ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:19:03 +1000 From: Geoffrey Heard To: Info-mac Subject: CD firmware update At 11:51 AM -0400 27/6/00, abrody@smart.net wrote: >Geoff, >In response to your comp.sys.mac.digest question: >The only firmware update for the beige G3s is the one for the modem >that comes on some of them. If you see another update, it is >either for the Blue and White G3, or the Powerbook G3. Be careful >to read the readme as to which G3 is supported. If it doesn't say, >then don't assume it was made for your machine. Take note the Blue >and White G3 was released November 1998. Any firmware update >released after that date should be presumed for the Blue and White. Thanks Alan. Since the CD firmware update I am looking at for G3 is dated 3 April 1999, then it must be for B&W, not beige. -- cheers, geoff Geoffrey Heard - GH&A Public Relations Demand Indonesia return the 100,000 East Timorese held in limbo in West Timor. Demand Indonesia pay reparations to East Timor. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:19:46 +1000 From: Geoffrey Heard To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: Info-Mac Digest V17 #104 At 12:30 PM -0400 26/6/00, The Info-Mac Network wrote: >Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 13:52:51 -0500 >From: Audria Hamiliton (by way of Hugh Lewis) >To: digest@info-mac.org >Subject: Help! > >I have a MAXPOWR G3 computer that has a jaz and zip drive and a very >high quality video card installed plus Photo shop 5.5,Adobe Premiere >4.1, Targa 1000. It is also only OS8. I would like to install Norton >Utilities but have to upgrade to at least 8.5 and cannot seem to find a >cd with that on..I am wondering what would happen to all my software if >I just went to OS9? There are some things goofed up so thought Norton >would help. It is very frustrating owning a Mac in Iowa as it is very >difficult getting any kind of help. Thanks for any advice you could >give me. Audria Hamilton Audria My experience on a G3 266 is that OS9.0.4 is significantly superior to OS8. Old programs run just like new ones except, sadly, for Cricket Draw III. MSWeird 5.1 won't install ... but it worked fine provided it was already on the HD or installed elsewhere and simply brought over in its folder and dumped on the HD. -- cheers, geoff Geoffrey Heard - GH&A Public Relations Demand Indonesia return the 100,000 East Timorese held in limbo in West Timor. Demand Indonesia pay reparations to East Timor. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:14:40 EDT From: Xerox860@aol.com To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: Mac OS 7.6 screen shot Ladies and Gentlemen: >I have a performa 6400, which when loaded with 7.5.3, does fine with taking a >picture of the screen, Shift + Command + 3. This puts the picture on the hard >disk, with a label "Picture l" and so on, as many pictures as desired. >Now my daughter recently loaded OS 7.6, and of course, the screen shot doesn't work any more. I get a copy of the screen on the 'clipboard', but can't transfer >this material from the clipboard to any other file, such as a word processor, >printer, etc., and frankly I miss the Shift + Command + 3 combo from OS >7.5.3. Any ideas? >Thanks ahead of time. Sincerely, Ken Lehmann, Fairfield, CT 06432 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:26:00 -0700 From: julian kaye To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: Network time server --============_-1250082123==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" In the last month or so the Apple NTS at Apple Americas (time.apple.com) has gone down three times, this causes a problem on our unattended servers (OS 8.6) as a modal dialog box informing about the lost connection stops or hinders other application processes from continuing to run. Besides installing our own time server are there any workarounds using the existing system software? The system clocks need to be synchronized with a time server at least every 24 hours. please cc response to expert@freethink.org \thanks --============_-1250082123==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Network time server

In the last month or so the Apple NTS at Apple Americas (time.apple.com) has gone down three times, this causes a problem on our unattended servers (OS 8.6) as a modal dialog box informing about the lost connection stops or hinders other application processes from continuing to run. Besides installing our own time server are there any workarounds using the existing system software?
The system clocks need to be synchronized with a time server at least every 24 hours.
please cc response to expert@freethink.org
\thanks
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