Subject: Info-Mac Digest V16 #262 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Info-Mac-Digest" --Info-Mac-Digest Info-Mac Digest Tue, 16 Feb 99 Volume 16 : Issue 262 Today's Topics: [*] TidBITS#467/15-Feb-99 (A) Non-LocalTalk Printer on Network (C) A Cautionary Tale - Eudora is time expiring (C) A Cautionary Tale - Eudora is time expiring (Q) PC Zips to Powerbook (Q) Selling old Macs (Q) Speech recognition, but only overseas! [R] One logon per bootup Adobe Kills LW8 (C) Batteries? Can you recommend any Speech-to-Text software? Control Panels for shutting down/restarting the Mac desktop icon organisation Doubling speed once again! Encore 4.0 and MIDI no longer appear to work on the Powerbook? G3 Blue & White DVD drive errors! How to convert JPGs to Slide Show Info-Mac Digest V16 #258 Info-Mac Digest V16 #258 Informations installers installers [comments on your particular case] Mac II wont boot Mac II wont boot-son of Macintosh Pascal Monitor won't sleep My opinion re: ADB adapter vs. usb navigator 4.5 windows are a pain OS 8.5. - why the slowdown ? Outlook Express photo catalog & slideshow Putting back Apple HD Driver on Apple HD Q:ResEdit-ing Apple CD-ROM and other questions about archive... running PC games on a G3/233 Powerbook or OrangePC 620 on a SCSI cards for Blue/White Mac searching mainboard Serial ports. Speakerphone software Subject: Problems with Powerbook G3 and wall projectors The Monitors & Sound Control Panel Bug Three buttons mouse/RealPC Website...Older Mac Street Price Guide? 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Topics: MailBITS/15-Feb-99 The Unbearable Lightness of URLs Why Windows Web Pages Have Tiny Text [Archived as /info-mac/per/tb/tidbits-467.etx; 29K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:09:42 -0500 From: gord@inforamp.net Subject: Creative Alliance Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:10:06 -0500 To: digest@info-mac.org From: Gord Shlanger Subject: Need Help! I can't seem to rebuild my desktop fully whether I use TechTool 1.1.8 or startup holding down the option and command keys. It starts its rebuild but quits less than one-quarter through. Many of my icons are generic and I can't return them to their originals. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Also noticed recently after correctly booting, I get a folder of rescued items containing a file called TempRes with a five digit number following. Help! PPC 5200CD, 8.5.1 TIA ________________________________________________________________ Gord Shlanger Creative Alliance 47 Sycamore Drive Thornhill, Ontario, Canada L3T 5V3 gord@inforamp.net or gordshlanger@email.com ------------------------------ Date: 13 Feb 99 22:41:12 -0500 From: "D. Scott Beach" Subject: (A) Non-LocalTalk Printer on Network TCS wrote: >If I put a Mac with a serial printer connected to it (say a >non-LocalTalk, non-Ethernet Stylewriter of some sort connected to the Mac >in standard fashion, with a serial cable) on a small home Ethernet LAN >with 2 other Macs, will the other 2 Macs be able to share the printer >(since the printer can be connected only to a mac and not the hub)? Lor: The StyleWriters I'm familiar with can use a system extension called "Printer Share" to make the StyleWriter visible over the network connection to any other Mac which has the same print driver installed. The printer has to be set-up in the Chooser to be shared and can be named from there too. The host Mac has to be running in order for the other Macs to see the printer. The down side is that the host Mac takes a performance hit during printing and it must have all the fonts installed that anyone may want to print with from the other Macs. - Scott Scott Beach Mac Know-How, Toronto, Canada ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:55:58 -0600 From: "Jason Madden" Subject: (C) A Cautionary Tale - Eudora is time expiring > >abrody@smart.net wrote: > > I have tried Outlook Express 4.5. I have tried Eudora Lite 3.1.3l. > > I have tried Netscape Communicator 4.0 through 4.5, and Netscape > > Navigator 3.0.x. I have tried Cyberdog. I have tried Claris > > E-mailer. > > What left is there to try? > > > > And why can't those free e-mailers get it into their heads that > > features cost money, and features when not released right can cause > > crashes? Rhetorical, but if this message could only go to the > > publishers of those free e-mailers, maybe we would see a better > > e-mailer for the Mac. > > > > Sincerely, > > abrody@smart.net You might try Pegasus Mail for Macintosh. It is an advanced e- mailer that supports CC:, BCC, and Reply-to addressing; The ability to keep copies of all your outgoing messages; Support for message encryption; Attachment support - up to 64 attachments per message; Fully MIME-compliant; Support for MIME encodings, UUencoding, and BinHex encoding; Spell checker; A glossary feature that speeds up typing of common phrases; Mail filtering; Support for confirmation of delivery and confirmation of reading requests; Minimal installation, with very little ongoing maintenance; Address book; Distribution lists for sending messages to large groups of people; Extremely configurable, with a wide range of preferences settings; The ability to save messages in progress for later editing; Context-sensitive online help; Noticeboards for group discussions; Many sorting and searching options for your mail; Hierarchical mail foldering system; Support for the POP3 and SMTP protocols for Internet mail; User-Defined Gateways, giving flexibility to work with almost any mail transport system; Mail Merge capability; Extensions - "plug-in" modules that extend and enhance the program. I use Pegasus Mail, and find it to be very capable.It is available for several different platforms giving the user the ability to have a familiar interface anywhere. It is freeware, and is available at http://www.pegasus.usa.com/ Jason Madden ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 08:11:21 +0100 From: Christian F Buser Subject: (C) A Cautionary Tale - Eudora is time expiring > You might try Mailsmith from Bare Bones Software, I use Eudora Pro 4.02 > myself though. Hi Denny, I can only confirm that Eudora Pro 4.02 is the mail application I like best. I used to try others like Microsoft's, then used Eudora Light for a long time but finally decided that an "upgrade" to the Pro version is worth the expense. Best wishes, Christian. -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Look at "Wo Hunger herrscht, kann Friede nicht Bestand haben" - Willy Brandt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 12:25:20 -0500 From: abrody@smart.net Subject: (Q) PC Zips to Powerbook Dear Digest readers, I have a friend with a PC (not Mac) Zip drive who would like to hook it up to a Powerbook if they got a Powerbook. But as I found out a long time ago, when I tried to wire up the Zip drive to my LC's SCSI port, the Zip drive gave my LC a sad mac face on startup. I can't figure out where on the Zip drive is the SCSI ID switcher, so that may be part of the problem. Also there is no second SCSI port on the Zip drive to put a terminator on, so I am assuming it wants to auto-terminate at its end, but the question is how to get it to do that. Will I have the same troubles hooking it up to a Wall Street Powerbook G3? Or has SCSI changed enough to recognize this 1995 Zip drive of theirs? Should it not be possible to get the PC Zip drive to hook up to the Powerbook G3, I don't want to buy a Zip drive, if it doesn't also support the standard 1.44MB floppy for my machine. Anybody make a Zip drive like the Superdisk drive, in that it can take both DS/HD floppies and the larger data format? Or is their a Superdisk drive that reads Zips as well? I heard realize Mac Zip drives will read PC Zip cartridges, or so I've heard. Is it true, will the File Exchange program on MacOS 8.5.1 allow me to do that? I have recommended to them to get a CD-R drive, but they won't listen. Thank you. Sincerely, abrody@smart.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:59:44 -0500 From: "Curt Hersey" Subject: (Q) Selling old Macs I've gotten a commitment from our school to purchase new Macs on the condition that we find someone to purchase our old ones. Does anyone know of any companies that purchase older computers for resale (or any other purpose for that matter)? We've got 23 Power Computing and UMAX Mac Clones that we need to unload together. Thanks in advance for any information you can offer... Curt Hersey Graphics and Media Laboratory Director Communication Dept. Berry College P.O. Box 490299 Mt. Berry, GA 30149-0299 Phone: (706) 238-7841 Fax: (706) 802-6738 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:45:10 -0500 From: abrody@smart.net Subject: (Q) Speech recognition, but only overseas! Dear Digest readers, At long last a holy grail for the Mac. Voice recognition. But one must go to the UK to get it: A review http://www.macgold.com/Prodescpt/4956.html An Apple description: http://guide.apple.com/Lasso.acgi?-database=MacOSGuide&-layout=CGI%20d etail&-response=%2fussearch%2fdetail.html&-recid=44209&-search A place to purchase it: http://www.onestopdirect.co.uk/details.asp?sku=127&backdept=31&cartid= CEDEGJFSEDU5422GCKN4555BFXO7507 (select the text in the web browser to see its description, as otherwise it is invisible. Bad web page programming, but there it) The company that makes it: http://www.voicepowerpro.com Looks like in March it will be MacOS 8.5 and i-Mac compatible :-) Anybody tried it? How much better is it than Dragon's Power Secretary? Any U.S. retailers carry it? If not, we got to knock their doors down until they get it. I've seen Via Voice, and other PC Voice recognition packages long enough at Best Buy to say, hey, we should see it here in the U.S. P.S. So what if it spells color, colour? I can search and replace that. I also MacSpeech and Plaintalk also enable this, but here is really a chance to have a software package that supports 120,000 word vocabulary on the Mac. Works with: ClarisWorks 4/5, WordPerfect 3.x, FileMaker Pro 3/4, Word 6.0.1, Excel, PageMaker 6.0/6.5, QuarkXPress 3.3/4.0, Nisus Writer, MacWrite Pro, Write Now, Omnis 7 and 4th Dimension. According to the "MacGold" review. Did somebody say WriteNow, Claris, Filemaker, Word and Word Perfect? MacWrite also? Sincerely, abrody@smart.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:26:33 +0000 From: Richard Platt Subject: [R] One logon per bootup I'm not an expert, but when I had a similar problem setting FreePPP to do a hard close instead of a soft close when closing the connection did the trick. However, looking at FreePPP 2.6.2 control panel, I can no longer find that option. But I'm not an expert on 10/2/99 8:35 pm you wrote: >I logon via TCP/IP to a server, do my business and log off, an hour later I >try to log on and it simply sticks at the "establishing communications >phase? Richard Platt Telephone: (44) 1892 890741 Fax: (44) 1892 890951 The Old Squash Court, Bayham Abbey, Lamberhurst, Kent, United Kingdom ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 21:29:09 -0500 From: Al Bloom Subject: Adobe Kills LW8 (C) Well, there I went again. And again, maybe my experiences will help one or more of y'all. My latest idiocy was getting Adobe's newest printer driver, AdobePS 8.5.1, for Leslye. Other drivers don't much work for Adobe products. Previous versions were called PSPrinter, but the Adobe folk apparently wanted name recognition in the chooser. Fortunately I installed it on my computer before foisting it on Leslye. Worked fine. A LW8-ish interface instead of the LW7-ish interface of PSPrinter. Unfortunately, it killed LW8. The Adobe 851 installer was not bright enough to know that its "printinglib" extension was older than the one of the 8.6 persuasion installed under OS 8.5, and it overwrote the newer extension. And the LW8 driver complained. Vehemently. No LW8 without the 8.6 printinglib. OK, grab the 8.5 CD and see if I can custom-install printing stuff. Nope. Oh naughtyword. However, I have TomeViewer, a tool that has saved me time and bother on several of my prior idiocies. I found printinglib in the installation tome and expanded it and copied it over Adobe's older version. And all is now well with LW8 in the chooser. It galls me that I can't even talk to Adobe about that snafu without calling their 900 number. I need to pay them to tell them about their problem? Right up there with Symantec, Adobe is. And it was a real treat to look through Adobe's tech support data bases and its customer forums. The phrase "useless as teats on a bull" comes unbidding to mind. No mention of what I'd think would be a glaring problem in the support data base. And the user forums seem useful only to those who like to grow hair on their palms. Or whatever the female equivalent is. Lotsa user comments. No responses. I need hair on my head, not on my palm. Pass on Adobe's "help." Ah well. Snarl a bit but -- more -- give thanks to the really nice people at devsupport@apple.com for releasing TomeViewer to us. Being able to snag an inadvertently or advertently lost system file is heaps better than doing a system reinstall, yes? Al Bloom ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 17:40:05 -0500 From: abrody@smart.net Subject: Batteries? Dear Digest readers, Before anyone says, please read Ogrady, I know about it, but now it seems I have to register a username and password to use the discussion boards on it. Here is the question. Has anyone used AER Energy's batteries on G3 Powerbooks? I hear their batteries last 23 hours and weigh the same as regular notebook batteries. Or has anyone seen batteries that last longer than 3 hours on the G3 Powerbooks, and will also fit in the slot that currently holds the battery for the Powerbook? Thank you. Sincerely, abrody@smart.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 10:58:48 -1000 From: "Edison M Cesar" Subject: Can you recommend any Speech-to-Text software? I am looking for a reliable, low cost program that will enable me to use a microphone connected to my Mac PC and generate text from continuous speech at normal dictation speed. I would like to get some accurate information based on user experience about Speech-toText programs that will work with a Mac. Assuming that one or more of those listed below will work with a Mac, if you have successfully used any of them and have opinions to share, please contact me offline at cesar@lava.net. TIA. PowerSecretary Power Edition (I understand this company has discontinued its Mac programs) PowerSecretary PE for Microsoft Word Dragon Point and Speak Dragon Naturally Speaking Dragon Naturally Speaking Mobile Voice Xpress Now Your'e Talking It Types Via Voice 98 Office It Types Via Voice 98 Home Point & Speak Voice Power Pro (I sent two messages to this company in the UK, but received no response.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 14:30:24 -0800 From: Paul Brians Subject: Control Panels for shutting down/restarting the Mac Here's a stupid Mac trick I discovered after tearing my hair out. I set my Mac to shut down nightly at 7:00. Later I decided I preferred midnight, but it continued to shut down at 7:00 anyway. Solution: the first time I had used the "Auto Power On/Off" control panel and then forgotten about it. The second time I used the "Energy Saver" control panel and kept trying to solve the problem using it. Duh. Just in case anybody else ever has this problem. Paul Brians, Department of English,Washington State University Pullman, WA 99164-5020 brians@wsu.edu http://www.wsu.edu/~brians ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:45:36 -0500 From: Vincent Cayenne Subject: desktop icon organisation Basic background: PowerBook1400c 166, OS 8.1, 48Mb RAM (RAM-doubled to 144). Two questions: 1) Every now and then the icons on my desktop change position - they 'skrunch' closer together vertically seeming to clear space at the bottom of the screen. Even the Trash icon moves up. Any reason for this behaviour? It's probably relevant that I have GoMac 1.6 permanently displaying a taskbar at the bottom of my screen. Sigh. 2) Is there any tool that facilitates alignment of desktop icons. I know it sounds anal but it irks me that a Mac hosts some of the best graphics software, has a graphic toolbox as part of the OS, is sooo GUI, yet in such a basic primary area, the Finder interface, I can find no help to ensure that two icons are horizontally aligned! Or have I been missing something obvious? --- "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity" - Nobel physicist, Richard Feynman. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 23:15:07 -0500 From: abrody@smart.net Subject: Doubling speed once again! Dear Digest readers, Apple is going to release a couple machines later this year to make the Pentium III look like a snail. http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/9902/altivec-g4.shtml Shows that even the 300 Mhz version of the G4 is faster than the 500 Mhz Pentium III. Apple should really start lying about its Mhz ratings to show the true comparable speeds. For if you saw Apple advertising it had a machine comparable to an 800 Mhz Pentium today, who do you think customers would buy? Sincerely, abrody@smart.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:08:57 -0500 From: abrody@smart.net Subject: Encore 4.0 and MIDI no longer appear to work on the Powerbook? Dear Digest readers, OK, so I transfered over my files to the Wall Street Powerbook, from the PowerMac 7200/75 that I had. But for some reason I can't seem to get Encore to recognize my MIDI instrument sending data via the Plaintalk port. I have a MIDI to Mac Serial adaptor that connects the two. Does Patchbay, the program that select the ports for Encore have any way of recognizing the phone/printer port of the Powerbook? How do I get it to recognize the port? I am having difficulty with this. Anybody experienced this before? Thank you. Sincerely, abrody@smart.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 11:58:30 +0000 From: mreddy@glam.ac.uk (Mike Reddy) Subject: G3 Blue & White DVD drive errors! I have spent the last two weeks negotiating with the UK Apple Help Line, the Dead on Arrival (DOA) line (who were helpful enough) and the Customer Relations line (the latter of which were the least helpful, most rude.). My new G3 had a DVD drive which would not open under any circumstances; pressig the button on the facia, the one behind the flap (i.e. the 'proper' one!) and trying from the CD/DVD player software! Initially, I was run through the standard procedures (startup with mouse down, using a paper clip, etc.) before we all gave up and the machine was sent down to a company called Amsys (who were mostly helpful, but COULD NOT FIND THE FAULT!) for evaluation. It was returned to me with a message saying "no fault found", yet the DVD drive would still not respond. Then we went through the whole thing again: The DOA line, the machine having another holiday in London at Amsys, the "no fault found" message, and finally a machine returned to my desk, which still would not open! I am sure you can understand my deep frustration and annoyance. Why was I being bounced around like this? I have a theory: The Customer Relations person mentioned that, since I had had my machine for two weeks (actually, at the time it was 9 days, of which it had been in transit to or from London for 5 of those days) it was not a DOA but a warranty issue. I explained that this was an error, as I had never had a working machine, but he responded that there was indeed a difference. So, here is my theory. For some reason, someone does not want this faulty machine to be considered a DOA Mac. Is it bad for the statistics? Is the DVD fault a common one due to manufacturing cock-ups, but Apple don't want to admit to it being a major problem? I don't know. Neither do I know why I have been treated the way I have. One would think that, to maintain the reputation for quality, Apple would have bent over backwards to deal with it all, especially, if it is a common problem. All I know is that it has been 13 days since I received my machine, and I have had it switched on for less than an hour! I work in a PC/Windows dominated environment; Microsoft owns the campus here, with a few of us Apple 'terrorists' causing non-compatability (their POV). It took me a YEAR of persistent campaigning to convince my boss to agree to me buying a Mac. It took another 4 MONTHS for the purchase order to get to a dealer (Getech, who have been the most helpful, but most powerless to help, given the Apple bureaucracy required to approve a replacement machine). I am looking like an idiot to my PC-toting colleagues, with the farce of trying to get a machine on my desk that works! This is the only Mac to be bought in the last 3 years! And, as far as this establishment sees it, that is a 100% failure rate! Hundreds of PCs go through this campus, and there are faultly machines that are DOA, but there is a Viglan engineer on campus to quietly, and diplomatically, repair them there and then. It matters little that a statistic of one is not valid, that (hopefully) this fault is a rare one. I am already running the gauntlet of snide comments, and will do so for a good few weeks, at least. Someone please reassure me that I am not alone here. I am feeling very depressed. -- The box said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better"... so I got a Macintosh! -- Email: mreddy@glam.ac.uk CU-Seeme: 193.63.130.40 (On Request) Web: http://www.comp.glam.ac.uk/pages/staff/mreddy/ Snail: J228, Dept. of Computer Studies, University of Glamorgan, Pontypridd, Mid Glamorgan. CF37 1DL Wales, UK. TEL: +44 (0)1443 482 240 Fax: +44 (0)1443 482 715 HOME TEL: +44 (0)1443 402 685 (Emergencies only) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:10:26 -0500 From: Randall Meadows Subject: How to convert JPGs to Slide Show At 12:37 PM -0500 2/9/1999, mitch.barker@gses.com wrote: > Howdy, > > I have about 15 JPEG format graphics which I'd like > to assemble into a "slide show". Ideally it should > end up as a quick time movie or other cross platform > format. > > I tried importing the graphics into a movie using the > Apple Video Player, but the resultant movie, could not > pause at each picture, and some pictures were skipped. > > 1. Is there a way to force the movie to pause at each > picture? I would also like to be able to manually > move from picture to picture with the next and > prev buttons. > > 2. Any other suggestions for assembling pictures into > a movie or slide show? > > 3. Is there more capable movie editing software which > will allow me to do what I need? You can do this with GraphicConverter; use "Convert More" and select "MooV-QuickTime" as the destination. You have to set the frame rate appropriately in order to pause during each picture. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:59:37 +0000 From: Roland Whitehead Subject: Info-Mac Digest V16 #258 abrody@smart.net wrote: > I'd like to create a series of disks for Mac users that has all the > software they need to get connected to the net with a particular > provider. I'd like to be able to have the installer automatically > put in the necessary software in the extensions, control panels, and > preferences folder. > Anybody know of an easy way to create such an installer that doesn't > cost any money? > If there is a way to easily edit Apple's own Installer that comes > with the operating system that might be the best option. MindVision offer a version of their InstallerMaker for free to shareware developers. I'm sure that if your offering were freeware they'd let you use it. http://www.mindvision.com Roland Whitehead CONTINUUM ID, UK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:18:26 +0100 From: UdoHuth Subject: Info-Mac Digest V16 #258 >Another point, Don't close the Powerbook screen until after it has >blackened from a Shut Down. Otherwise the Powerbook will attempt to >go to sleep, which eats up batteries. Hogwash... I put my PowerBook to sleep all the time. This is the mode in a PowerBook I like best, 'cause just by pressing a button the computer is up and running. No long waits until it is booted up. I'd like to put my desktop Mac to sleep also instead of shutting it down... Just think a bit about why PowerBooks might have a sleep mode... the battery use in sleep mode is minimal... Udo Ceterum censeo Microsoft esse delendam ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 11:51:06 -0400 From: Odette Duval Subject: Informations I am trying to reach Jim Leitch / address book.... I saw that he has a new version of is address book. I have the application 3.5.1 and I want the upgrade..... (I cannot reach him by internet) I have a new i-mac and my address book dosn't work correctly on my new i-mac...... HELP........ Thank you Odette Duval ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:08:03 -0600 From: Chaz Larson Subject: installers At 8:51 AM -0500 2/7/99, abrody@smart.net wrote: > Anybody know of an easy way to create such an installer that doesn't > cost any money? Well, "easy" is relative, but... Both: MindVision Installer VISE: and Aladdin InstallerMaker: have fully-functional demos; the former generates installers that=20 expire after a certain period of time, and the latter puts up a "Hey,=20 you're not licensed!" dialog every time the installer is used. The=20 ethics of using them for ongoing Real Work without paying for them is=20 left as an exercise for the reader. ;) They cost about $300 apiece,=20 and I believe both are free to "qualified" freeware/shareware=20 developers [I know VISE is]. I've used MindVision VISE extensively, and recommend it without=20 reservation. It features an "Installer Wizard" that walks you through=20 the basics of building an installer. I've never used InstallerMaker, but I understand it's very capable. The Big Hairy Installer: Costs $25. I don't know if installers built by the demo have any=20 limitations. I've never used it. > If there is a way to easily edit Apple's own Installer that comes > with the operating system that might be the best option. The Apple Installer SDK: Although I haven't looked at it in years, if it anything like what it=20 used to be, I wouldn't say that learning it will be easy; I'd venture=20 a guess that climbing up the learning curve with the included=20 documentation might be worth $300. ;) I don't knwo if installers=20 built with an unlicensed copy will have any limitations, though I=20 suspect they don't. You are supposed to license it for distribution,=20 whether external or internal. Fees vary and are not disclosed in the=20 documentation. > And before anybody recommends AppleScript, I have found certain cases > where AppleScript crashes some machines. It should work with > extensions disabled. What are those cases? I've never seen this. Are you sure it's not a=20 conflict with something else? Once you take away my right to speak, everybody in the world's up shit creek= =2E - Ice-T; Freedom Of Speech [just watch what you sa= y] Chaz Larson - chaz at visi dot com - http://www.visi.com/~ch= az ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:35:34 -0600 From: Chaz Larson Subject: installers [comments on your particular case] Aside from my earlier suggestions for installer-builders, this is a pretty tall order. For purposes of these comments, I'm assuming the use of VISE. I believe InstallerMaker is very similar. At 8:51 AM -0500 2/7/99, abrody@smart.net wrote: > Such an installer should be able to detect if FreePPP was already > loaded, and remove FreePPP before proceeding with the installation. This isn't a big problem. > It should be able to stop installing if InterPPP is present, and > inform the user to run Internet Valet setup, as the provider has > previously given users Internet Valet for its setup, which is as > simply an installer for those machines. That's not a big problem. If you include the Internet Valet installer, VISE could kick it off itself. > Such an installer should > be able to recognize the operating system and model Macintosh being > used, and recommend upgrading before continuing if they have System > 7.5.2 through 7.5.5. Less straightforward. Recognizing the specific OS release [beyond generalities like "System 7.1 or later"] may require writing a custom extension to VISE [in C]. Recognizing particular hardware definitely will. > If System 7.5.1 or earlier is in use, that installer should be able > to extract out and build a segmented Stuffit archive, after the user > puts in a series of disks. Spitting out the segmented Stuffit archive isn't a big problem; it'd just be wrapped up in the installer like any other set of files. VISE has an "Ask User" destination, but then the user will get asked for each segment where to put it. What's that segmented Stuffit archive contain? The foot bone connects to the ankle bone, the ankle bone connects to the shin bone, the shin bone connects to the knee bone, now hear the word of the Lord. - The Suburbs, Rattle My Bones Chaz Larson - chaz at visi dot com - http://www.visi.com/~chaz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:45:30 -0600 From: Chaz Larson Subject: Mac II wont boot At 10:39 PM +0000 2/7/99, Ian Burt wrote: > If it is a write off there are spares to be salvaged, and I kinda fancy > having a 19 inch monitor myself to go with a Pios Keenya, Tanzania 4400 > clone, 200 Mhz, 32 MB RAM. It wont just plug and play,,tried it. I guess > it needs the RGB card from Mac II? Or am I being unrealistic? The monitor might require sync-on-green, like my old RasterOps 21" color [$30 at a salvage store]. If this is the case, a griffin MacSync adapter will set you right up. You can look up the particular model in Griffin's online monitor database for specific information about it: chazl Come on over to our valley, where boys run free! Run through the lush green meadows in your shorts! Brother John will be your guide in a summer of indescribable earthly delight! - The Suburbs, Music For Boys Chaz Larson - chaz at visi dot com - http://www.visi.com/~chaz ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:27:26 +0000 From: Ian Burt Subject: Mac II wont boot-son of Hey Macsters, many thanks to the multitudes who replied to my plea for info about getting a Mac II to boot(too many to reply to personally, unless I get some spare time over the weekend). General concensus of opinion is it needs a new battery. We were hoping it might be something like that, i.e. cheap to fix. Will let y'all know the results asap. Again many thanks. Mac users, dontcha just love em? Regards, Ian B But you who walk facing the sun,what images drawn on the earth can hold you? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:53:02 +0100 From: Edmond Cambier Subject: Macintosh Pascal Good afternoon all Digest-Readers, Being retired(67) I am starting on my LC2 with Think Pascal 4.0.1 I find a bit my way with the language but the Interface to the Mac...is a big problem. The six Inside Macintosh Books lie on the table but I don't know how to use al that stuff. Please could someone help me on my way...Many thanks in advance. First question: Does someone know an FTP-Site specific to Macintosh Pascal language? (Maybe I could download some programming code to see how it is done.) Second question: I am looking for some time after following old books written by Stephen Chernicoff - called: Macintosh Revealed, book 1, 2 and 3. (I found here in Belgium book 4, which can be read when I can at least walking if not to say running! As the mentionned books are printed between 1985 and 1990, they may be very used but that's no problem as long as all the pages are in them! Amazon.com will search for this books but...I have no paying-card and their email-address is not to find. Why I start with Pascal? I think just a reason of my feelings...Pascal looks to me more human than the currently used languages, with or without the ++'s Hoping to read some good news and thanking you for reading this, I remain, with best regards, from Mon, living in Mol, province Antwerp, Belgium. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 13:59:03 EST From: Mercibeate@aol.com Subject: Monitor won't sleep Hi All, Having some recent weirdness with my system, maybe someone can help. My monitor will no longer go into sleep mode on its own. If I manually put the computer to sleep via menu or power button, the monitor will sleep. However, when I leave the computer unattended, the HD spins down, the monitor goes blank, but does not go into sleep mode. BTW, until recently, the monitor was going into sleep mode as scheduled. Any ideas on how to fix this? Thanks, Rob My system is: Power Mac 7350/180 System 8.5.1 Energy Saver control panel 80 Meg RAM ------------------------------ Date: 13 Feb 99 22:54:14 -0500 From: "D. Scott Beach" Subject: My opinion re: ADB adapter vs. usb Michael Holtzman wrote: >Greetings, all. I am expecting a new iMac any day now, and I need a >recommendation for a joystick. I have a Gravis MouseStick II (ADB). Should >I get an ADB to USB adapter, or go for a new USB joystick? (I'm not a hard >core gamer, so I don't need the latest and greatest .. I just want a decent >controller). Michael: I don't know if there would be a compatibility issue with the drivers but all things being equal, you'd get a lot more flexability out of a USB <-> ADB adapter. You could use existing mice, track-balls, a wide variety of keyboards, drawing tablets and even some older modems. - Scott Scott Beach Toronto, Canada ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:46:51 -0500 From: dead nancy Subject: navigator 4.5 windows are a pain hi, everybody. so: without considering the future, i resized a navigator 4.5 window to a very small size. i was just trying to see what was underneath. now, every new window navigator makes is that very small size, and navigator seems to find it necessary to reload the page from the server every time i resize a window. can i get rid of that tiny window without trashing my prefs (which i am happy with?) any way to convince navigator to resize my windows with content that should be in the cache? or without referencing the original page at all (like ie?) these two issues (which seem to be cross-platform) are enough to make me end my ms-celibacy and start using explorer. i'd prefer not to. thanks. dead nancy nothing new at http://www.merkins.com/deadnancy/ see you in hell! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 14:05:11 +0900 From: lordsym@respo.or.jp (Simon Howell) Subject: OS 8.5. - why the slowdown ? I finally upgraded to OS 8.5.1 and although I like all the bells and whistles it really seems to have slowed down my machine. I wasn't expecting a speed gain when I upgraded but I didn't expect to take such a hit in performance either. Has anyone else experienced slower performance or is it all in my imagination ? I've switched off everything I can think of and I'm wondering if I've missed something somewhere. Would increasing the Disk Cache make a difference ? Power Performa 5280 (120Mhz, 48 MB, 1.2Gb drive). System 8.5.1. Disk Cache set to default 1536K. Virtual memory is off. Remember Recent Documents etc is off. Sound Sets are disabled. Smart Scrolling is off. Font smoothing is off. Other installed software with extensions / control panels : FinderPop (I can't live without this) Nortons 4.0.3 (crashguard is disabled). IE 4.5 FreePPP 2.6.2 Any advice ? regards, Simon lordsym@respo.or.jp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:49:39 -0600 From: Chaz Larson Subject: Outlook Express At 1:41 PM +0900 2/5/99, Magnus Hoek wrote: > 1) Where are the E-mails saved. What files ? I need to know what to > backup... "Eudora Folder"; the default location is in your System folder. Each mailbox is a separate file [which can be opened in any test editor]. > 2) Is it possible to import Eudora mailboxes to new Outlook Express > mailboxes. No idea. chazl Come on over to our valley, where boys run free! Run through the lush green meadows in your shorts! Brother John will be your guide in a summer of indescribable earthly delight! - The Suburbs, Music For Boys Chaz Larson - chaz at visi dot com - http://www.visi.com/~chaz ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 09:41:08 -0500 From: "Gino Landini" Subject: photo catalog & slideshow Hi all: Can anyone point me to a no frills application that will store scanned photos and let me show them in slide show format. I have tried Graphic Browser and a few others but they all have some limitation or are too complicated for my demented brain. Seattle Film Works has a free program they give you with their pictures on disk but it only works with their off the wall format. Please contact me directly at email if you have a suggestion. Thanks in advance. Gino Landini ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:56:21 -0600 From: Chaz Larson Subject: Putting back Apple HD Driver on Apple HD At 3:02 PM -0800 2/7/99, Dieder Bylsma wrote: > How do I go about putting back an Apple HD driver on an HD that was > perviously 'taken-over' by another drive formatting utility. Backing up and > reinitializing is an unpreferred option since all my 100s of aliases will > be broken and will have to be manually fixed. I'm afraid that "unpreferred" option is the only safe one, to the best of my knowledge. You may be able to: 1. Unplug the drive's power cable. 2. Boot up the machine. 3. Launch Drive Setup. 4. Plug in the drive. 5. Select "Rescan Bus" from the Functions menu. 6. Highlight your drive and choose "Update Driver" 7. Reboot. That may work. However, remember to back up before you try this, so that in the not-completely-unlikely event that it doesn't work, you can reinitialize and restore. chazl What's important in this world? A little boy. A little girl. - Chrissie Hynde, Thumbelina Chaz Larson - chaz at visi dot com - http://www.visi.com/~chaz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 06:25:04 -0500 From: "J. Rahmandar" Subject: Q:ResEdit-ing Apple CD-ROM and other A while back someone submited an article where one can ResEdit Apple CD-ROM driver/extension to allow it to mount any non-Apple CD-ROM drive. Several example were given for different versions of it, unfortunately, the one that came with my OS 8.0 is version 5.4, and it is not the same as in the example. Can some expert out there tell me how to identify which section of the code needs to be modified? I have downloaded SuperResEdit, which allows you to see the DRVR in opcode-operator formHow do you find the exact location to modify? I'd also like to do the same with Apple HD Setup newer version. I downloaded a version of Apple HD Setup 7.3..5 Hacked, and it has allowed me to use Apple Driver on my "old" Syquest 44 and 88 removables. Please CC: jrahman@gar.esys.com when posting your response. Thanks. Julius ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:26:06 +0100 From: "Dewey Markham, Jr." Subject: questions about archive... On February 7, Michael Luskin wrote: >How quickly do files get uploaded to the archive. Four files listed today, >including >info-mac/font/amphiareocaps-font.hqx; 96K] >and >/info-mac/font/cuzco-regular-font.hqx; 220K] >do not seem to be in the AOL version of the archive. Should I look elsewhere? Michael, I've had the same problem looking for newly listed files at SWITCH in Switzerland (the most reliable Info-Mac mirror that is geographically closest to me). I found that it takes a day or two for what I seek to appear there, but if I do the netiquettely incorrect thing and go halfway around the world to the mirror at MIT, I find they have the files available the same day as the archive is released. Try http://hyperarchive.lcs.mit.edu/HyperArchive.html Hope this helps, Dewey ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:11:06 -0600 From: Chaz Larson Subject: running PC games on a G3/233 Powerbook or OrangePC 620 on a At 8:40 PM -0500 2/6/99, abrody@smart.net wrote: > Now I have seen advertisements selling Virtual PC G3 with John Madden > 98. Does it work? I would think so, otherwise every person who buys it will be contacting Connectix about a refund, and I don't imagine Connectix wants that sort of business. :) > I don't care how slow it is. How do I get John Madden to work? > Would getting a Mac Gravis gamepad make any difference? I wouldn't imagine so, if the problem is that neither game will begin to play. I'd try calling EA [or whoever publishes Madden 98]. I suspect it's something like DirectX not being properly installed or somesuch. > Is VirtualPC G3 worth it? Depends on how you define "worth it". Everybody I've talked to about this has universally panned VirtualPC for gaming-specific purposes. My experience is similar. VPC is useful for running non-processor-intensive Windows tasks, but it's not a gaming solution. Maybe my opinion will change once I get my G3 card, but I don't expect it to. So, if you want to run Office or want to check webpages on Windows or something like that, I'd say VPC is worth it. If you want to play modern PC games, I'd say it's not, unless you have a very high frustration threshold. On a 250MHz 604e, the games I tried that required a 486/66 were unplayable. > Does it come with Windows 95 or Windows > 98 on disk, or do I have to use a separate copy of Windows 95 or > Windows 98? Virtual PC is available with DOS, Windows 95, or Windows 98. If you already own Windows 95/98, you can save a bit of money by buying the DOS version of VirtualPC and using your own Windows CD. > > Does Simcity 3000 work on any of these? Don't know. > I hear also that Lego's Mindstorm is compatible with PCs with an > infrared transmitter. Does Apple's IrDa on a G3 Powerbook work with > the Mindstorm Lego bricks? Probably not. I don't believe Virtual PC supports IR, Mindstorms does not work with VirtualPC even without IR because of physical differences between the Mac and PC serial port hardware [not a cable adapter issue]. Talk To Me Barbie is similarly affected. chazl Some nights I still sleep on the beach ... Remember when stars were in reach. Then I wander in early to work; spend the day licking boots for my perks. - The Who, Bell Boy Chaz Larson - chaz at visi dot com - http://www.visi.com/~chaz ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 09:43:03 -0700 From: DrBlood Subject: SCSI cards for Blue/White Mac Digest readers, I recently bought one of the G3 Blue/White models. I was thinking that I would be able to connect my Umax scanner to this box using the SCSI card that came with the scanner. Wrong! The SCSI card supplied with the scanner is for Wintel boxes and is not a PCI card :-<. (so be warned if you have similar plans!) So now I have to buy a SCSI card to use my scanner. Looking down the road, I know that it would be nice to have support for ultra2 SCSI hard drives as well. Is it possible that one card will have both internal conections (for a HD) and external connections for other devices? Or will it be necessary to buy separate cards? Also, how many devices can be supported by the "typical" PCI SCSI card? Will it be similar to the old built-in SCSI interface, or will different cards have different capacities to support peripherals? Please reply directly as I am *way* behind in reading the archives. Jerry drblood@medschool.med.utah.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:46:43 +0000 From: macsystem@t-online.de (Hufnagel) Subject: searching mainboard I'm searching for a used motherboard for Macintosh 7600 or an adress where we can buy used and prepared boards or other parts for Macintosh computers. Thank you for help. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 99 21:50:12 -0600 From: Derek Jacobs Subject: Serial ports. I have a device I am looking to connect up to my G3 (the beige model) that requires a PC-style 9 pin serial port. I purchased a cable from MacConnection that has a 9pin male that will connect to the device, with a mac din-8 female connector on the other end that I can plug in a serial cable and attach to the mac. I use virtual pc to run the software; the preferences reflect the com port (either 1 or 2, tried both) set to the modem port, but the software will not detect the device. For reference, the device is a DexDrive my brother would like to use for his Nintendo 64. (it reads memory packs so that one could download game saves and use them, or share yours with others on the net, or to back up, etc.) I have considered getting a USB card for this system. is there any sort of dongle for USB that will add such a serial port? Any help greatly appriciated. Derek Jacobs ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 09:43:11 -0700 From: DrBlood Subject: Speakerphone software Digest readers, I am looking around for an app that will allow me to use my Mac as a speakerphone. Another feature I would like to have would be voice mail. So far I have only seen the "Voice-stf" software from STF inc. Does anyone have experience with any of these kinds of products that can help me with my deciion? Please reply directly since I am way behind in the archives. TIA Jerry drblood@medschool.med.utah.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:22:51 -0400 From: Deborah Foss Subject: Subject: Problems with Powerbook G3 and wall projectors >Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:02:26 +0100 >From: Jacob Palme >Subject: Problems with Powerbook G3 and wall projectors > >I have a Powerbook G3 with a built in 600x800 pixel screen. >I have problems connecting it to various wall projectors, >which have less resolution than 600x800 pixel. > >The Powerbook G3 is obviously capable of sending out screen >control signals with less resolution than 600x800. When I >connect it to a CRT screen, it can do this. But when I >connect it to various wall projectors, it refuses to show, >in its menu of screen resolutions, anything else than >600x800. > >Probably, if I could just set it to another resolution and >using the external screen only, all would work. The problem >is that it does not provide me with this setting option. > >I have had the same problem with several different kinds of >wall projectors and with one system which converted the >signal to ordinary television video signals. > >Can anyone help? I am guessing that you like me, have the phat G3. They and the 3400c only do 800x600 for resolution. Download the shareware switchres and then you can switch to 640x480 to match most of the older wall projector, or many other resolutions. The drawback is the screen on the powerbook goes black, so you have to watch the cursor on the big screen, but at least it works. The newer G3 powerbooks have multiple resolutions. Debi ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:02:02 -0800 From: Roger Stafford Subject: The Monitors & Sound Control Panel Bug Apple's "Monitors & sound" control panel/application sometimes refuses to launch, giving the error message: "Monitors & Sound cannot be used at this time. The required extension, SystemAV, cannot be found. The extension, SystemAV, has either been disabled or is not present. To use Monitors & Sound, first put the SystemAV extension in your extensions folder, make sure that it is enabled, and then restart your Macintosh." As many users have found to their disgust, this often happens even though SystemAV lies nestled in their extensions folder in perfectly good health! In my own case it has been an off-again, on-again thing. It ran a year without trouble, but this year it has failed far more often than it has succeeded. I used Dejanews and AltaVista recently to search for fellow suffers, and found that there is a surprisingly large number of people who have complained publicly of this failing over the past year and a half. There must be far more who have suffered in silence and simply stopped using Monitors & sound altogether. Here is a list of suggested remedies, none of which has proven permanently effective: 1. Increase Monitors & sound memory allocation, 2. Replace Monitors & sound with a fresh copy, 3. Replace SystemAV extension with a fresh copy, 4. Disable possibly conflicting startup files, 5. Discard Finder preferences, 6. Rebuild the desktop, 7. Reinstall clean System folder, 8. Zap the PRAM, and 9. Increase the amount of available RAM. Among those I found who registered their complaint of this failing against Monitors & sound, there was a diversity of computers involved: PowerMacs 7100, 7500, 9500, Performas 6300, 6400, Starmax 3000, 4000, and PowerTower Pro 250 (my own.) Some of these had very large amounts of available RAM - up to 320 MB. Operating systems ranged from 7.5.3 up to at least 8.1. It seems very clear to me that the fault must surely lie with the Monitors & sound control panel itself and not with its environment. There is no polite way of saying this. This control panel has a big, fat bug in it which has been there from its very inception. I do wish Apple would admit to its existence and come out with a fix for it! Roger Stafford - 2/13/99 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 11:08:46 -0500 From: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9?= Subject: Three buttons mouse/RealPC I know that you can configure a 2 buttons mouse in any Windows emulator, but I would like to use a 3 buttons mouse for use in AutoCAD with Real PC and Win95 and can make the midle button work with my Kensington Mouse. Does anybody know if its possible to use a 3 buttons mouse in Real PC at all? thanks Martin René ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:58:10 EST From: L2Lee@aol.com Subject: Website...Older Mac Street Price Guide? I am looking for a website that I remember reading about a month or so ago. It gives information on the street price for older macs. I am looking for the value of a Performa 6220 CD. Your reply is appreciated. Sincerely, Lawrence ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:15:27 +0200 From: Carlos Alejaldre Subject: Word98 Dear Digest readers: recently I upgraded my word processor to Word98 after installing Office98, which I am using with MacOS 8.1 . And from the very begininng, when trying to save a file, small one, a warning comes out saying that I do not have enough space in my hard disk (non true) and after three o four attempts, it saves the file without any problem. Any idea what could be the problem? any patch available?. Sincerely, carlos.alejaldre@ciemat.es ____________________________________________________________________ Carlos Alejaldre Carlos.Alejaldre@ciemat.es Director Laboratorio Nacional de Fusion por Confinamiento Magnetico Asociacion EURATOM-CIEMAT para Fusion Av. 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